Comments for part of the story http://partofthestory.com thoughts from another living letter Mon, 08 Sep 2008 01:24:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 Comment on couple of brief political thoughts by Mike http://partofthestory.com/couple-of-brief-political-thoughts/#comment-1776 Mike Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:49:09 +0000 http://partofthestory.com/?p=345#comment-1776 This just in. I found out that Palin's teleprompter was not visible during much of her speech AND it malfunctioned several times AND her hard copy of the speech was not the final draft for some weird reason. In addition to this, the largest crowd she'd ever spoken to was around 700 people. Wow. Can I reverse this ticket? This just in. I found out that Palin’s teleprompter was not visible during much of her speech AND it malfunctioned several times AND her hard copy of the speech was not the final draft for some weird reason. In addition to this, the largest crowd she’d ever spoken to was around 700 people.

Wow. Can I reverse this ticket?

]]> Comment on couple of brief political thoughts by stephanie http://partofthestory.com/couple-of-brief-political-thoughts/#comment-1775 stephanie Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:07:49 +0000 http://partofthestory.com/?p=345#comment-1775 I wish the candidates couldn't read off a teleprompter or have anyone write for them, just get up there and have to riff. I wish the candidates couldn’t read off a teleprompter or have anyone write for them, just get up there and have to riff.

]]> Comment on the soy sauce incident by Michael Foster http://partofthestory.com/the-soy-sauce-incident/#comment-1742 Michael Foster Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:22:33 +0000 http://partofthestory.com/?p=342#comment-1742 "Elijah fell!" Nice... “Elijah fell!” Nice…

]]> Comment on the soy sauce incident by sam http://partofthestory.com/the-soy-sauce-incident/#comment-1740 sam Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:12:32 +0000 http://partofthestory.com/?p=342#comment-1740 and all that without spilling? amazing. and all that without spilling? amazing.

]]> Comment on what? no crystal ball by Kathy http://partofthestory.com/what-no-crystal-ball/#comment-1736 Kathy Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:07:04 +0000 http://partofthestory.com/?p=340#comment-1736 encouraged! encouraged!

]]> Comment on the things that we hope and dream of by Kathy http://partofthestory.com/the-things-that-we-hope-and-dream-of/#comment-1733 Kathy Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:17:09 +0000 http://partofthestory.com/?p=337#comment-1733 Ummm, you should see what picture I am carrying around in my pocket! Ummm, you should see what picture I am carrying around in my pocket!

]]> Comment on on my mind right now: christianity v. churchianity by Wally http://partofthestory.com/on-my-mind-right-now-christianity-v-churchianity/#comment-1731 Wally Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:19:46 +0000 http://partofthestory.com/?p=336#comment-1731 The way I recently heard it said, Like Lazarus, you call someone to take off the death clothes of this world only to wrap them in new religious death clothes. Sad when it's conversion to a system rather than an introduction to a relationship with Yeshua. The way I recently heard it said, Like Lazarus, you call someone to take off the death clothes of this world only to wrap them in new religious death clothes. Sad when it’s conversion to a system rather than an introduction to a relationship with Yeshua.

]]> Comment on obama’s relevant interview by Don’t Call It a Comeback : ReleBlog http://partofthestory.com/obamas-relevant-interview/#comment-1714 Don’t Call It a Comeback : ReleBlog Wed, 09 Jul 2008 05:45:56 +0000 http://partofthestory.com/?p=324#comment-1714 [...] Leftist * BarackObama.com * BaylyBlog.com * Cameron Conant * Insight Analytical * Tmamone.com * Parts of the Story * The Corner * JivinJehoshaphat * Chosen For Grace Press Mentions (160 Related Articles on the AP [...] [...] Leftist * BarackObama.com * BaylyBlog.com * Cameron Conant * Insight Analytical * Tmamone.com * Parts of the Story * The Corner * JivinJehoshaphat * Chosen For Grace Press Mentions (160 Related Articles on the AP [...]

]]> Comment on holy disciple making batman by Mike http://partofthestory.com/holy-disciple-making-batman/#comment-1713 Mike Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:01:47 +0000 http://partofthestory.com/?p=329#comment-1713 Yeah man....let's get on that. Yeah man….let’s get on that.

]]> Comment on holy disciple making batman by Wally http://partofthestory.com/holy-disciple-making-batman/#comment-1712 Wally Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:00:49 +0000 http://partofthestory.com/?p=329#comment-1712 There is a great interview with Erwin on the catayst podcast, he says very insightful things to all leaders. I miss the long talks... less typing, quicker dialogue and often shared coffee! There is a great interview with Erwin on the catayst podcast, he says very insightful things to all leaders. I miss the long talks… less typing, quicker dialogue and often shared coffee!

]]> Comment on holy disciple making batman by Mike http://partofthestory.com/holy-disciple-making-batman/#comment-1711 Mike Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:51:34 +0000 http://partofthestory.com/?p=329#comment-1711 That's a good quote. We definitely talk more about the ACTIVITIES before really understanding our IDENTITY first. That’s a good quote. We definitely talk more about the ACTIVITIES before really understanding our IDENTITY first.

]]> Comment on holy disciple making batman by Wally http://partofthestory.com/holy-disciple-making-batman/#comment-1710 Wally Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:49:12 +0000 http://partofthestory.com/?p=329#comment-1710 I see the multiplication thing, in fact I am reading "The Multiplying Church" which distinguishes between the two. It makes sense. Hear is a quote from Erwin McManus on some of this generations hang ups with megachurch and "community" focused initiatives. Erwin McManus: We know intuitively that getting bigger and bigger isn’t working. One trend I see is the rejection of growth for self-discovery and the pursuit of authentic community. So we keep whittling our spiritual community to a smaller and smaller and more exclusive inner circle. The problem is if the diagnoses are wrong, so will be the cure. We are moving from large and self-indulgent to small and self-indulgent. The problem isn’t size but value systems. If we keep asking the wrong questions, we are just going to get better wrong answers. The solution to lack of community isn’t to give up on the community." I see the multiplication thing, in fact I am reading “The Multiplying Church” which distinguishes between the two. It makes sense. Hear is a quote from Erwin McManus on some of this generations hang ups with megachurch and “community” focused initiatives. Erwin McManus: We know intuitively that getting bigger and bigger isn’t working. One trend I see is the rejection of growth for self-discovery and the pursuit of authentic community. So we keep whittling our spiritual community to a smaller and smaller and more exclusive inner circle. The problem is if the diagnoses are wrong, so will be the cure. We are moving from large and self-indulgent to small and self-indulgent. The problem isn’t size but value systems. If we keep asking the wrong questions, we are just going to get better wrong answers. The solution to lack of community isn’t to give up on the community.”

]]> Comment on holy disciple making batman by Mike http://partofthestory.com/holy-disciple-making-batman/#comment-1709 Mike Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:27:09 +0000 http://partofthestory.com/?p=329#comment-1709 Wally I agree about the distinction you're making about either/or propositions (at least in this particular case), but what stood out to me most was the mindset. We need to cultivate a mindset of multiplication and not just addition. In other words, multiplication always adds, but adding doesn't always multiply. This mindset could be applied in a variety of contexts that could perhaps transcend an either/or mentality. I say that believing there are some things that are worth fighting for that would still present us with plenty of either/or things inside the life of a disciple making community. I hope that wasn't too much gibberish. Wally

I agree about the distinction you’re making about either/or propositions (at least in this particular case), but what stood out to me most was the mindset. We need to cultivate a mindset of multiplication and not just addition. In other words, multiplication always adds, but adding doesn’t always multiply.

This mindset could be applied in a variety of contexts that could perhaps transcend an either/or mentality. I say that believing there are some things that are worth fighting for that would still present us with plenty of either/or things inside the life of a disciple making community.

I hope that wasn’t too much gibberish.

]]> Comment on holy disciple making batman by Wally http://partofthestory.com/holy-disciple-making-batman/#comment-1708 Wally Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:19:54 +0000 http://partofthestory.com/?p=329#comment-1708 I feel like this is kind of set up as an either/or rather than a both/and situation. For discipleship to take place there should be a clear understanding of who (Jesus) someone is being discipled to (evangelism) and then growing takes place (discipleship). Now if discipleship is truly taking place, then church growth is good (it seems that often "megachurch" is frowned on by the "disciple church"). If discipleship is taking place then a growing church means that the mission (lives changed, community changed, people sent out) can take place at a larger level. I do not hear people criticizing Peter for preaching and having thousands signing on to be followers of the way ("Peter, please, thousands? Why did you do that, we can only have a few at a time, it's too big a group". When the mission is clear and healthy (again changed lives, growing in Christ) then the more the better, right? I want my entire community changed, and beyond, but that seems far more enticing and enjoyable to do with many, rather than a couple of us (that way we have tabs on everyone?). I hope I'm clear, bigger isn't bad if mission is healthy. Invitation to follow Christ isn't bad as long as clarity and relational follow through is ongoing. I feel like this is kind of set up as an either/or rather than a both/and situation. For discipleship to take place there should be a clear understanding of who (Jesus) someone is being discipled to (evangelism) and then growing takes place (discipleship). Now if discipleship is truly taking place, then church growth is good (it seems that often “megachurch” is frowned on by the “disciple church”). If discipleship is taking place then a growing church means that the mission (lives changed, community changed, people sent out) can take place at a larger level. I do not hear people criticizing Peter for preaching and having thousands signing on to be followers of the way (”Peter, please, thousands? Why did you do that, we can only have a few at a time, it’s too big a group”. When the mission is clear and healthy (again changed lives, growing in Christ) then the more the better, right? I want my entire community changed, and beyond, but that seems far more enticing and enjoyable to do with many, rather than a couple of us (that way we have tabs on everyone?). I hope I’m clear, bigger isn’t bad if mission is healthy. Invitation to follow Christ isn’t bad as long as clarity and relational follow through is ongoing.

]]> Comment on The Reason for God by Mike http://partofthestory.com/the-reason-for-god/#comment-1705 Mike Tue, 01 Jul 2008 07:38:29 +0000 http://partofthestory.com/?p=316#comment-1705 I've heard good things about Wright's book. I'm eager to get to it! Speaking of books---hope yours is getting published soon...let's go man. I’ve heard good things about Wright’s book. I’m eager to get to it! Speaking of books—hope yours is getting published soon…let’s go man.

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